diff --git a/PluralKit.Bot/Commands/Groups.cs b/PluralKit.Bot/Commands/Groups.cs
index 9c3e75a4..2580eb3f 100644
--- a/PluralKit.Bot/Commands/Groups.cs
+++ b/PluralKit.Bot/Commands/Groups.cs
@@ -31,7 +31,7 @@ namespace PluralKit.Bot
             await using var conn = await _db.Obtain();
             var newGroup = await conn.CreateGroup(ctx.System.Id, groupName);
 
-            await ctx.Reply($"{Emojis.Success} Group \"**{groupName}**\" (`{newGroup.Hid}`) registered!\nYou can now start adding members to the group:\n- **pk;group {newGroup.Hid} add <members...>**");
+            await ctx.Reply($"{Emojis.Success} Group \"**{groupName}**\" (`{newGroup.Hid}`) registered!\nYou can now start adding members to the group like this:\n> **pk;group `{newGroup.Hid}` add `member1` `member2...`**");
         }
 
         public async Task RenameGroup(Context ctx, PKGroup target)
@@ -133,6 +133,7 @@ namespace PluralKit.Bot
             await using var conn = await _db.Obtain();
             
             var system = await GetGroupSystem(ctx, target, conn);
+            var memberCount = await conn.QueryGroupMemberCount(target.Id, PrivacyLevel.Public);
 
             var nameField = target.Name;
             if (system.Name != null)
@@ -142,6 +143,11 @@ namespace PluralKit.Bot
                 .WithAuthor(nameField)
                 .WithFooter($"System ID: {system.Hid} | Group ID: {target.Hid} | Created on {target.Created.FormatZoned(system)}");
 
+            if (memberCount == 0)
+                eb.AddField("Members (0)", $"Add one with `pk;group {target.Hid} add <member>`!", true);
+            else
+                eb.AddField($"Members ({memberCount})", $"(see `pk;group {target.Hid} list`)", true);
+
             if (target.Description != null)
                 eb.AddField("Description", target.Description);
 
diff --git a/PluralKit.Core/Models/ModelQueryExt.cs b/PluralKit.Core/Models/ModelQueryExt.cs
index a99d58f8..9b751759 100644
--- a/PluralKit.Core/Models/ModelQueryExt.cs
+++ b/PluralKit.Core/Models/ModelQueryExt.cs
@@ -38,6 +38,18 @@ namespace PluralKit.Core
         public static Task<IEnumerable<PKGroup>> QueryGroupsInSystem(this IPKConnection conn, SystemId system) =>
             conn.QueryAsync<PKGroup>("select * from groups where system = @System", new {System = system});
 
+        public static Task<int> QueryGroupMemberCount(this IPKConnection conn, GroupId id,
+                                                      PrivacyLevel? privacyFilter = null)
+        {
+            var query = new StringBuilder("select count(*) from group_members");
+            if (privacyFilter != null)
+                query.Append(" left join members on group_members.member_id = members.id");
+            query.Append(" where group_members.group_id = @Id");
+            if (privacyFilter != null)
+                query.Append(" and members.member_visibility = @PrivacyFilter");
+            return conn.QuerySingleOrDefaultAsync<int>(query.ToString(), new {Id = id, PrivacyFilter = privacyFilter});
+        }
+
         public static Task<GuildConfig> QueryOrInsertGuildConfig(this IPKConnection conn, ulong guild) =>
             conn.QueryFirstAsync<GuildConfig>("insert into servers (id) values (@guild) on conflict (id) do update set id = @guild returning *", new {guild});